First is coming from ARES PPsh-41 AEG from wood and steel. We have not more details, only that is 840mm in length and as you can see in the picture is very well made. Expect it very soon.
Second one from Hexagon Productions from steel and wood uses a V7 M14 type gear box and G36 type HopUp looks like the real one, giving 350 fps. The solid wood butt-stock can accommodate a LiPo 11.1 V battery. Expected at January 2010 at a cheaper price than Ares model.
